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Since SECV has sent out letters to all customers I guess I can now report that a 6 tuner DVR is coming soon. They are currently testing the Arris Whole Home Unit, which is based off the old retail Moxi DVR. I assume that there will be new guide software to boot but I can not confirm this.
I do not know if they will also test the Pace/Tivo 6 tuner DVR that Comcast is using before they make any decisions.

In January, SECV also purchased Shen Heights TV in Shenandoah and will rebuild the whole distribution system from the ground up. They will be combined with the Hazleton/Mahanoy City systems.
Also the SECV Mahanoy City office was closed for good on March 15th and all operations moved to Hazleton.

Starting May 1st new internet speeds will be available in all systems, except Mahanoy City, as all upgrades to DOCSIS 3.0 are now complete. This is the expansion that some have seen at the various headends. Mahanoy City customers have to wait for the completion of the fiber optic hub to get the new internet speeds and finally have all TV services coming form the Hazleton headend.

There is also more 3DTV, HD, On Demand programming, TV Everywhere, and faster internet speeds coming this year. I do believe that some TV Everywhere has already started.

I was considering purchasing two Tivo Premiere 4s but may hold off to see how this whole home setup works and what its monthly cost will be.

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Does anyone have an estimate when the Mahanoy City system will have new internet speeds? At least they’ll be coming at some point. Now if only they can fix the packetloss I’ve been having for 2+ months now I’ll be set.

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Mahanoy City customers will not have DOCSIS 3.0 until the fiber hub is built in Delano. Once the hub is done we will be officially part of the Hazleton headend. As of right now we are getting our TV, internet, and phone out of Bears head.
I called SECV on Friday about the additional equipment that would be needed for the new internet speeds and I decided not to go forward with the upgrade until the hub is built and operational as it would be a waste of time right now as we will only have one downstream channel.
I don’t see the logic in paying an additional $4.95/month for a DOCSIS 3.0 modem and not be able to take advantage of the service. Besides we already have a -10dBmV difference in the OOB frequency compared to the power level of the higher frequency channels. I never seen a cable system that had its power level tilting forward.
The additional split would put my OOB at -20dBmV, which is 5dBmV below the minimum power level for the OOB frequency. I left a voice mail for the headend person but he never got back to me.

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I take it there’s no estimation as to when the fiber hub in Delano will be complete. I’m only on the 12/1 standalone internet since we don’t get tv or phone from them yet and am looking forward to the 20/2 that will be available once the upgrades are complete. The 30/3 would be nice if we decide to get a bundle from them. Sadly the wideband 50 is completely overpriced.

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I haven’t heard when the hub will be built and finished but I will be notified when its done as I will have to have my cable modem replaced with an updated model. The hub was supposed to be finished already but was postponed for some reason.

I think there is going to be speeds higher than wideband 50. I do know for a fact that us Mahanoy City system customers are getting a rate hike and that it will be on our June bills. Since I have all available services from them my bill will increase by 5 dollars a month which will put me at about $210/month. About a dollar a month will be for the retransmission agreement they made with WNEP.

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Looking at the rate cards for all the other systems outside of Mahanoy, 50/5 is the fastest available. Maybe they add higher in the future, but those rates are in effect May 2013 so I’d imagine they’re accurate. I’d love to get 50/5, but not for $110 a month when the 30/3 is $59. Although at least you can get the 50/5 as a standalone. The 30/3 is only included in bundles.

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Jed-
If you check out the WOW forums here serving MI, OH, and IL -the Arris system is the same thing they have.

Overall, it looks identical to what the MOXI was. I had a hunch SECV would trial this.

As far as integration – I see now that the upgrades to the Mahanoy lineup as well as the CATV system they acquired in the Danville area has now been completed in regards to HD channel expansion.

SECV is nicely taking over much of the East-Central PA area.

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Jed1, where did you get all the info on the multi-room DVR and fiber hub? Do you know someone or have you worked for SECV?

I noticed my 12/1 went to 20/2 two weeks ago. My router buggered up and I power cycled everything. After that power cycle I’ve been at 20/2 since.

I’m only on Phone and Internet though, so my only option is 20/2, unless I paid out the nose for 50/5.

Faster speeds in the future are certainly possible. I trialed 105/10 on a Comcast system that only had 4 bonded downstream channels at the time. It worked fine. SECV at least the Birdsboro headend is bonding 8 channels, so that’s TWICE what Comcast was doing. Not only that, sources tell me the Birdsboro system is only like Node+1 or Node+2 at most.. meaning really small node sizes. Comcast was like Node+6, 750 MHz.

Yeah Eastern PA is dominated by SECV (860 MHz), Blue Ridge (1GHz) and Comcast (750 MHz). SECV borders all of them as well. Throw in a little RCN (860 MHz) in the Lehigh Valley as well.

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We had the final HD channels added in January but I had issues because they had copy protection turned on and I could not view them with my two cablecard tvs. It took two days to get this resolved.

Here are some links from Arris about the moxi whole home solution:
»www.reuters.com/article/ ··· 20110217
»www.arrisi.com/products/ ··· ndex.asp
Click on the gateway family and the media player family links.
»www.arrisi.com/solutions ··· ndex.asp
It looks like this setup is really tailored to customers that have the triple play as the gateway has video, voice, and data all in one box.
I almost bought the retail three tuner moxi with a mate but Arris announced that they were discontinuing it so I dodged a bullet there.
I am still considering the Tivo but may postpone the purchase until I see how this works and what its monthly price tag will be.

JeepMatt,We had the final HD channels added in January but I had issues because they had copy protection turned on and I could not view them with my two cablecard tvs. It took two days to get this resolved.Here are some links from Arris about the moxi whole home solution:Click on the gateway family and the media player family links.It looks like this setup is really tailored to customers that have the triple play as the gateway has video, voice, and data all in one box.I almost bought the retail three tuner moxi with a mate but Arris announced that they were discontinuing it so I dodged a bullet there.I am still considering the Tivo but may postpone the purchase until I see how this works and what its monthly price tag will be.

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I do not know how I can answer your question as I am really not at liberty to say. Anything I mention here has been made public either by a customer announcement or by the customer service reps.

I can say that all the SECV divisions will be the same and all will have 8 downstream channels. I suspect that there will be a speed tier offered at or above 100 meg down. This is an assumption on my behalf.
I can report that there is about 8 nodes for the borough of Frackville, which has about 1500 homes total. Since the change over to SECV my speed has stayed well above the speed range I pay for, which is platinum plus. Your info in Birdsboro is correct.

I do know that Service Electric personnel is well respected in the industry. They were providing TVGOS service through all their headends and did it with no compensation and no requirement ever to carry it. Rovi engineers told me that Service Electric was the best company to work with. Because of this Rovi kept Service Electric TVGOS inserters running to the end of the very last day in the entire northern hemisphere. So Service Electric was the last place TVGOS was broadcasted when it was shutdown in the end of March.

I know you have Direct TV so I suspect that the 6 tuner DVR maybe an interest to you. I’ll try to provide more info on it when I know its ok to say it. They also officially launched their TV Everywhere solution today as they went live with HBO GO and Cinemax GO.
»www.secv.com/tveverywhere/
»www.mysecv.com/?inc=4
I probably will never use this as I am not interested in watching tv on a phone or computer since I have an enormous outlay of cash on HDTVs and sound systems.

It looks like this is going to be an interesting year for SECV customers.

cypherstream,I do not know how I can answer your question as I am really not at liberty to say. Anything I mention here has been made public either by a customer announcement or by the customer service reps.I can say that all the SECV divisions will be the same and all will have 8 downstream channels. I suspect that there will be a speed tier offered at or above 100 meg down. This is an assumption on my behalf.I can report that there is about 8 nodes for the borough of Frackville, which has about 1500 homes total. Since the change over to SECV my speed has stayed well above the speed range I pay for, which is platinum plus. Your info in Birdsboro is correct.I do know that Service Electric personnel is well respected in the industry. They were providing TVGOS service through all their headends and did it with no compensation and no requirement ever to carry it. Rovi engineers told me that Service Electric was the best company to work with. Because of this Rovi kept Service Electric TVGOS inserters running to the end of the very last day in the entire northern hemisphere. So Service Electric was the last place TVGOS was broadcasted when it was shutdown in the end of March.I know you have Direct TV so I suspect that the 6 tuner DVR maybe an interest to you. I’ll try to provide more info on it when I know its ok to say it. They also officially launched their TV Everywhere solution today as they went live with HBO GO and Cinemax GO.I probably will never use this as I am not interested in watching tv on a phone or computer since I have an enormous outlay of cash on HDTVs and sound systems.It looks like this is going to be an interesting year for SECV customers.

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Thanks for the info. I know a few people who kept asking SECV when the heck they would get HBOGo.

I never knew of that mysecv site before. That new too? They do serve a pretty sizeable area in PA and its good to see they are keeping up with the big boys.

No matter if they roll out Arris or Tivo Q MR-DVR, I would be very interested in hearing how it works. I like DirecTV but I don’t have the Genie.

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Here is a link to engadget with a video of how the Moxi Whole Solution works.
»www.engadget.com/2012/02 ··· stomers/
The main unit, Media Gateway, has video, internet, and voice embedded so this will eliminate the need for multiple pieces of hardware you have to rent from SECV.
I then guess the Media Player will go to each tv in the home and connect to the gateway by MoCA or internet. It also appears that Arris used the Moxi software so it will look and work like the retail Moxi units.
Here is some links about the Arris Whole Home system:
»www.arrisi.com/solutions ··· ndex.asp
»www.arrisi.com/products/ ··· ndex.asp
»www.arrisi.com/product_c ··· UN11.pdf
»www.arrisi.com/product_c ··· UN11.pdf
This might give you a reason to dump Direct TV as it may do all the things that you want if SECV utilizes all the options that Arris made available with the Whole Home solution.

mysecv.com just went live on Wednesday. This coincides with the official launch of HBO GO. They had two Fox TV Anywhere working before this but they didn’t make much noise about it.Here is a link to engadget with a video of how the Moxi Whole Solution works.The main unit, Media Gateway, has video, internet, and voice embedded so this will eliminate the need for multiple pieces of hardware you have to rent from SECV.I then guess the Media Player will go to each tv in the home and connect to the gateway by MoCA or internet. It also appears that Arris used the Moxi software so it will look and work like the retail Moxi units.Here is some links about the Arris Whole Home system:This might give you a reason to dump Direct TV as it may do all the things that you want if SECV utilizes all the options that Arris made available with the Whole Home solution.

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Yeah that’s pretty slick. Anyway SECV has to offer Multi-Room with a user experience for this decade (not last) for me to think about it. As long as I can hide the SD channels, or even re-map them so if you enter one it auto tune’s the HD feed, then we would be good to go.

If they do some new system maybe its worth trying in tandem with DirecTV for a month just to see if I like it. I was checking out the lineup at my dads house yesterday and its really good. There’s a lot of HD that DirecTV will never carry (Like shopping, religious, government, etc)… not that I watch that stuff but its a testament to the dedication to HD.

The only thing that really sucks about the lineup is that there’s only one HD of each premium. We are HBO and Showtime subscribers and its great having all of those multiple screens in HD with DirecTV. That would be kind of hard to overcome, but you never know. SECV can sometimes really surprise you. Blue Ridge has all the multi-screens in HD and they are owned by Pencor, whom owns PenTeleData, which runs SECV’s internet… so maybe there’s some kind of relationship there. Those are two really good providers, one top Moto platform (SECV) and one top Cisco platform (Blue Ridge) both tied to PTD.net.

There are a lot of the new RNG set tops being issued at SECV, so maybe they could run the premium HD multi-screens in MPEG4 like Blue Ridge does. Blue Ridge also runs SDV (but they also have a lot of analogs still) and they are on the tried and true Cisco platform.

Bonka
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I just saw this on PTD’s ticket system and figured it’s worth posting as maybe it gives us an idea of when the Mahanoy City upgrades could be done.

SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE: Hazleton/Mahanoy City cable upgrades
06/04/2013 01:00 – 06/04/2013 06:00

Although Mahanoy City isn’t listed as having any interruption of service.

Brief interruption of service during scheduled maintenance window.
Hazleton (HZL)

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I have suggested to them about the auto tune HD channel option because they have a big problem with people watching the SD channels thinking that they are in HD.
Currently if you tune to a SD channel that has a HD channel equivalent you will see a “watch in HD” message pop up but the user must hit the ok/select button before the message goes away. Most people ignore it or do not know how to do it or think that the channel they are watching is HD.

I do know they are going to add more HD channels and I have been asking them repeatedly to add the premium sub channels in HD. They add the new HD channels as they go through the retransmission agreements.

It is pretty much likely MPEG4 is going to be the norm soon because all the source feeds coming to them is in MPEG4. I have the RNG200 and it is MPEG4 and 1GhZ ready. I do believe all the upgrades to the head ends will allow them to do this.

I am hoping that the Arris Whole Home setup brings a new guide and interface as it will be ruined with the old I Guide software.

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Yeah I noticed that at my Dad’s house. But there was a weird glitch with it. Some channels it didn’t come up – despite there being an HD equivalent available. Some showed the button but then it disappeared.

Also some people see watch in HD and don’t think its a button. They think its just telling you that it is in HD.

I don’t think i-Guide has the ability to Auto map HD channels. Only Passport Echo / Passport 3.5 and later have this feature. Passport is a much better, faster and smoother guide platform.

The only thing they could do is roll out new software or do a reverse map, where ch 2 and up are mapped to the HD feeds. SD feeds could be made available higher up (like ch 1000+ the number).

Arris software may handle this better. I think in Tivo you can remove channels from your guide too.

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I don’t think the I Guide does. If I recall correctly the last update to the I Guide was in 2009 and was A28 or A29. I would have to look at the diagnostics on the Pace to make sure.
We had the Passport Echo guide from Aptiv Digital when we were with SECO, but I don’t think it had HD auto tune enabled on it. I know shortly after we got Passport Echo, Gemstar bought them out and the TV Guide logo showed up on it. Of course Gemstar was bought by Rovi, aka Macrovision.
The change to SECV and the I Guide resulted in the most complaints and transition problems. People still want the Passport Echo guide back.

I have postponed my TiVo purchase until I get a look at the Arris system and test it. If they are not going to update the software then I will purchase the TiVo’s.
Yes TiVo does give you the option of removing channels in the guide that you don’t need or want.

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said by Jed1:

Passport is really nice. It just runs very smooth and quick. Though I was surprised about how fast I-Guide A28 changes channels with the Ch Up/Down buttons on my dads Motorola 6200. I’m just used to DirecTV. While DirecTV has so many features, it really slows it down. I-Guide is so dead simple and there’s really nothing to the thing, so its quick.

Passport Echo 3.5 and later supports HD Auto Tune. Its a user configureable option in the settings. The headend must configure the channel maps for HD Auto Tune service. Blue Ridge has this option in their Passport Echo 3.7, but they did not configure it, so despite being set to “on”, it doesn’t do anything. Though I did bring it up to them and one of the reps in the Blue Ridge thread made it sound like they will work on that configuration later in the year.Passport is really nice. It just runs very smooth and quick. Though I was surprised about how fast I-Guide A28 changes channels with the Ch Up/Down buttons on my dads Motorola 6200. I’m just used to DirecTV. While DirecTV has so many features, it really slows it down. I-Guide is so dead simple and there’s really nothing to the thing, so its quick.

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I was told today that supposedly ground was only just being broke recently for the Delano construction to do the Mahanoy upgrades. Sounds like the upgrades won’t be done any time soon.

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Got my bill notice e-mail today. The friggin access pack went up $4 so now its $90.43 for 20/2 internet and phone. That’s pretty steep. They don’t offer a lower speed access pack either.

Considering dropping phone for ooma but still on the fence about relying on the Internet and router for phone. Kind of like how its separate and it’s been very reliable phone service.

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Prices went up for everything. Mahanoy finally got new prices for June as well, except we don’t have faster internet speeds yet. Still stuck on 12/1 for internet only, but the price went up $4. The monthly cap went from 100gb to 150gb, but considering it’s easy to not run in to that by downloading stuff in off hours it doesn’t really matter much.

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@Cypherstream,
My monthly bill went up by $7.43/month. I am now paying $212.40/month. The HD/DVR Triple Play Plus pack went from $144.40/month to $148.40/month and they added a Broadcaster Retransmission Fee of $3.43/month to my bill.

I was expecting the $4/month increase because we did not receive a rate hike from last year because of the problems they had with the transition. We are still $4/month behind you Birdsboro customers yet so that will be another increase coming to me. Probably will happen when they get the Fiber Hub built and get Mahanoy City tied into the Hazleton headend. They also have to start integrating Shenandoah into Hazleton.

If I decide to buy two Tivos I can save about $8.43/month by turning in the Pace DVR. The only drawback is I will lose access to VOD.

Bonka will be relieved as I am having internet issues now. I had download speeds as low as 322 Kbps on Tuesday. They are going to install the DOCSIS 3.0 modem next week and then start troubleshooting the problem.

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@ Bonka,
There is another rate hike coming as we are lagging behind the other divisions. I suspect when the Fiber Hub gets built we will get the other rate hike.
When the hub gets built you should move up to 20 down and 2 up. I will move to 30 down and 3 up.

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Yes, I will be looking forward to the bump up to 20/2, if my issues are solved by then. If the internet actually becomes reliable I want to talk the others in my household in to ditching Dish tv and Frontier phone and grab the triple play so we can have the 30/3. Not sure that will happen, but 20/2 is good enough at least. Hell, I’m happy with the 12/1 for the most part, if it was working properly. Beats the old 4/1 DSL I had.

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Well eventually something has to give. PA American Water co is proposing an 11.1% rate hike as well. Yes I already sent my formal complaint to the PUC. Not to mention now it’s summer season so the electric will be higher due to Central AC. Everything keeps going up and up and up. I’ve been lucky to get yearly pay raises but that just barely covers the cost of everything else going up.

Maybe going to triple play will save money? I pay $125 to DirecTV for Multiroom DVR, an additional HD set top, HBO+Showtime and their digital package that is up to but not including Encore’s, Style, PBS Sprout, Boomerang, Chiller. I have to go online every 3 months and remove the “HD Extra Pack” (Only really care about Palladia) and then re-add it for $0 for 3 months (good trick people use to keep the bill $5/month cheaper).

So for everything it’s $90 with SECV plus $125 for DirecTV, so that’s $215 but not including Max, Starz, Encore and those few others I listed above. DVR for two rooms (though the HD box also backfeeds RF to the bedroom and I use an RF IR extender for the bedroom).

I like DirecTV – clean UI, iphone app with voice control & search, ipad app that I can watch TV on, HD channels on same numbers (so were always tuned to the proper HD feed) and the extras are nice like Pandora and Youtube on TV. But something’s gotta give eventually.

SECV would have to really offer some kind of Multiroom DVR service that matches DirecTV’s offerings like clean HD UI with nice searching, mobile apps, expandable storage and simplified HD channel numbering scheme… then I would switch no problem. Until then I’ll have to source TV from DirecTV.

I would look at Dish Network but the Eastern Arc view required for Dish HD Locals in this market is obstructed by trees that would cost WAY too much to cut to be worth it.

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@Cypherstream,

I have PAWC also. The cost per gallon of water has tripled in the last 4 years. I used to pay a third of a penny per gallon and now its a penny per gallon. I am looking at a 4 to 6 dollar increase in my monthly bill if they get their full rate hike.
In July our electric bills will have a new charge added to them. It is the Distribution Improvement Surcharge which will vary in price from one month to another.
Inflation is killing my bottom line here also.
I currently have no job and it is getting difficult to find suitable work. I have spent over $1500 for gasoline and now companies are starting to charge 10 to 20 dollars for filling out an application.
I am fortunate that I payed all my debts off and have a reserve of cash on hand or I would be in big trouble.
If you haven’t had to look for a new job in the past couple of years consider yourself fortunate and pray you do not find yourself getting downsized as things are not what they used to be.

I pay $212.40/month which is everything but the wideband 50 internet. I have all available channels, including all the premiums, 2 CableCards which I own, one Pace RNG200 HD DVR which is part of the HD DVR triple play plus pack, platinum plus internet, and phone.
I do not know what new features will be available when they roll out the 6 tuner Arris (Moxi) Whole Home system but it should give the Hopper and the Genie a run for their money. I am still considering the Tivos though as I own the 2 CableCards. The Tivo might be a better fit for your needs.
The one convenience you would gain is you will get one bill for TV, internet, and phone and it helps that the company is locally owned as this supports local jobs.

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When the arris box comes out I def. want to take a good close hard look at it.

I don’t want any up front investment (purchase of Tivo’s or media center stuff). So if I can lease an arris multi room solution and if its really nice, then more power to them. I’ll gladly support local business.

I just hope you can customize the guide on it.
1) Prioritize HD
2) eliminate any SD duplicates, channels not in subscribed package or garbage infomercial stuff.

Please keep us informed if you hear anything regarding the availability of such service. I’m really curious when. Eying that HR44 Genie upgrade for DirecTV, but I’m holding off to see what SECV and Arris can deliver.

EDIT: W.O.W. cable uses the Arris 6 tuner gateway for their “Ultra TV” service. I’ve been lurking in their forums reading a bit about it. Also came across this review: »

Ok so your at $212 a month and you said that’s everything. I’m at $215 when you add up both companies and I don’t get Cinemax or Showtime.When the arris box comes out I def. want to take a good close hard look at it.I don’t want any up front investment (purchase of Tivo’s or media center stuff). So if I can lease an arris multi room solution and if its really nice, then more power to them. I’ll gladly support local business.I just hope you can customize the guide on it.1) Prioritize HD2) eliminate any SD duplicates, channels not in subscribed package or garbage infomercial stuff.Please keep us informed if you hear anything regarding the availability of such service. I’m really curious when. Eying that HR44 Genie upgrade for DirecTV, but I’m holding off to see what SECV and Arris can deliver.EDIT: W.O.W. cable uses the Arris 6 tuner gateway for their “Ultra TV” service. I’ve been lurking in their forums reading a bit about it. Also came across this review: » www.allappleallday.com/2 ··· iew.html I’m sure there are more reviews out there too.

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@ cypherstream,

I watched some of the links that are on WOWs website and the Arris unit is the Moxi. The interface is what was used on the Moxi so if you ever seen one or used one then you will be familiar with how it works. I was going to buy a 3 tuner Moxi with a Mate but Arris stopped selling the retail version because of a lack of interest.

I do not think the 2 items you listed can be done with the Arris but we will have to wait and see what SECV decides to roll out.
I at least hope they get a modern guide for this unit and don’t try to run this with the old I Guide.

I tried to convince them to also test the Pace XG1, which has the Tivo interface but they seem to be disappointed with Pace. Since Arris just acquired Motorola, I think the Arris products will be an easier fit for SECV. I think they are going to install one of the DOCSIS 3.0 Motorola modems on Wednesday so I can begin troubleshooting the internet issue here.
I did mention to them that I would like to try the Arris unit out before I decide to get a Tivo but I do not know if they got any units for the customers to test as they only had a stripped down version that they were testing at the office.

Hopefully they will let some customers beta test this before they decide on what version they will release and not go by what a couple of employees like.

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The cable show is this week in Washington DC. I hope some representatives from SECV attend and get some great idea’s.

I know this would take agreement from Comcast… but if they would license their X1 software, I would totally sub to SECV if they ran X1.

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1. Comcast licences out X2 technology (software and hardware) and SECV joins them with it.

2. Comcast buys out SECV

Why? Because X2 LOOKS AMAZING!!!!!!!

I hope either 1 or 2 things happen.1. Comcast licences out X2 technology (software and hardware) and SECV joins them with it.or2. Comcast buys out SECVWhy? Because X2 LOOKS AMAZING!!!!!!!

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